Just to be clear, while I find this all to be conceivable, I’m not going to put the whole of it to the test. I’ll die when it’s my time to go, and if any of this stuff is true then, well, it would probably be a bonus.
Some months ago I ran across a Near Death Experience account. I’ve read dozens of them at this point. The people studying phenomenon give what is virtually an identical story about what happened between when they died or when they became brain dead, and when they were able to be revived. As such there’s a real limit to the number of people considered in studies on this, and the folks who theorize and discuss what happened while they were dead, haven’t what one would call tight controls over the circumstances.
A typical NDE recount follows a basic template. The person loses consciousness and is usually under medical care. At this point some event has taken place that usually satisfies the legal definition of dead, ie their heart rhythm is stopped or what medical person would label asystole. Their brain is not producing any brainwaves and other simple tests like the pupils being equal and reactive to light fail. This is what is tested to determine brain death. They show the doctor in the show shining a penlight into the eyes of the patient and if you’re brain dead the eyes are no longer controlled by the brain and so do not react.
Then a variety of things may happen. Sometimes the patient is close to care or even already in the hospital. Sometimes they are gathered up from the placed they passed out. The stories very a bit, some really read like some miracle happened and the person who dies turns out to still be alive. There are variations but usually the patient appears to be in coma, no brainwaves, no movement, nada.
A lot of these people are victims of severe heart attacks but it includes all sorts of other scenarios like suffocation, drowning, electrocution and others. In very many cases they are dead for hours. Recent research has shown that the brain actually is tolerant of a fairly long time down before actual breakdown 0ccur.But the patient is kept on life support and after a while, which includes some patients who have been in coma, some attempt to revive them succeeds. There’s really a lot of variety in the circumstances.
But whether it is immediate or not, the body ends up being alive and the person comes back to being conscious with a story to tell. The ones that don’t are, well, dead.
I’ll leave you to have the curiosity to look up some to read about. Their time in heaven usually includes a life review, and the person is sometimes given the option of whether to come back or stay in heaven.
There are various things that seem to argue that this is real and not made up out of a fantasy powered by a dying brain. Just having the same story is peculiar if this is fantasy based, some last hurrah for the brain to do something before expiring. Things that don’t seem to be able to be faked include some cases where a relation has passed away unknown to the patient and have them describe what happened to them. Meanwhile the patient has no way of gaining the information. and there doesn’t appear to be a rational explanation without appealing to something unseen going on to rationalize all these people having the same story.
- Often there’s an out of body experience and often they can recount what was done to them while being treated. Things like signs placed out of sight of the patient are recalled once the patient recovers.
- There’s a period of movement though a tunnel of some kind.
- They arrive in heaven and feel loved and well
- They are brought to a place and relive their life. The description of this interestingly focuses not just one what they might have been feeling but what their victim or beneficent felt as well.
So, is it true? I wouldn’t say that this has met the definition of being confirmed by scientific methods. At this point we don’t know if telepathically is possible and we definitely can’t build a rocket ship to investigate heaven. To have scientific proof probably would mean having understood much more about reality then we currently do. On the other hand, is this any crazier than thinking consciousness exists for everything in the universe, i.e. your pet rock left over from the eighties.
All I can say from science is that there are phenomenon that require an observer. Mind you we still haven’t defined what an observer is but real physics experiments confirm some mighty peculiar things. Like, would you believe that the answer for does a tree make a sound when falling is no, at least for pretty small trees 🙂
If you want to blame someone it’s all Einsteins fault. He should have left quantum mechanics to be deduced and described by someone clever.
How intelligent was Albert Einstein? Unbelievably brilliant. They are still confirming his predictions.
What about conventional religious beliefs? Well, I only compared it to kabala. It corresponded well. But I’m no expert. It does seem like the two come from the same mental phenomenon.
For another weird physics topic lookup entanglement. Truth to tell, you can pick anything from quantum mechanics and drive yourself nuts.
At least this is all independent of politics 🙂

Interesting!
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Interesting!
I wonder if the brain is programmed to think happy thoughts about heaven as a way of relaxing so less energy is used & what energy there is can be used for recovery.
Sy Rand
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